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Dave Davolt

03/18/2002 11:29 AM Quote Reply Alert 
I read several articles on SQL Security. All recommended removing BuiltIn\Administrators from the SysAdmin group. I decided, since we have about 20 people in that group, and none of them need SysAdmin access to a particular server, to not just remove them from the SysAdmin Goup, but delete the BuiltIn\Administrators login all together. I have a few sql logins in the sysadmin group, and a few NT logins in the sysadmin group, so I wasn't concerned with locking myself out. When I restarted SQL, an error I hadn't seen before appeared: ccserver, 650, error, Error Message from SQL-Server: Login failed for user 'NT AUTHORITY\System'. ccserver, 650, error, DB-LIBRARY Error: Login incorrect. The logins were generated by a third party app that logs to a db. That's where the ccserver comes from. No big deal, I thought. Everything (jobs, SPs, Web Stuff) was still working. I contacted the software mfg., they removed BI\Admin, without getting error I did. Next day, I needed to add a new NT Login. Wouldn't work. EM says bad domain or user name. Strange. I personally added the user to the domain, and verified it worked by logging into domain with that user name. I then added a current domain user to the security list and gave it access to appropriate db for the person to use temporarily. I figured this had something to do with removing BI\Admin. So, a few days later, on another SQL server I removed the same group from, I tried to add the new domain user login. Same error: Window Name: Microsoft SQL-DMO (ODBC SQLState: 42000) Window content: Error 15401: Windows NT user or group 'Domain\username' not found. Check name again. I then restored the BuiltIn\Administrators group to the Security login, and made them members of SysAdmin Group. Then restarted SQL, and was able to SUCCESSFULLY add the new user name I was unable to add before. QUESTION: What happened? I was/am member of NT Administrators/Domain Admins, and member of SysAdmin on server.
Dave Davolt

03/19/2002 4:10 PM Quote Reply Alert 
Resolved. needed to sync BDC and PDC. See thread at www.sqlpass.org http://www.sqlpass.org/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=359&threadid=12058
Chip Andrews

03/19/2002 8:10 PM Quote Reply Alert 
Good thing you found it - I was having a heck of a time trying to duplicate the issue. Everything was working fine for me. Isn't that always the way? You did the right thing - always check the web and newsgroups (groups.google.com) for other people with the same issue. It's a big planet - you can't be the only one with this problem. If so - bask in your uniqueness...
Zvika (guest)

09/20/2008 4:07 AM Quote Reply Alert 
Hi

I did remove the builin\administrators but I forgot the sa password. How can I return the builin\administrators back in order to reset the sa password?

Thanks
Zvika
Chip Andrews
Posts:113

09/21/2008 6:17 PM Quote Reply Alert 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932881

"Also, if SQL Server 2005 is started in single-user mode, any user who has membership in the BUILTIN\Administrators group can connect to SQL Server 2005 as a SQL Server administrator. The user can connect regardless of whether the BUILTIN\Administrators group has been granted a server login that is provisioned in the SYSADMIN fixed server role. This behavior is by design. This behavior is intended to be used for data recovery scenarios."
Claudio (guest)

10/23/2008 2:10 AM Quote Reply Alert 
Zvika did u find the solution?i have got the same problem.

Claudio

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